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Post by bvgardener on Mar 28, 2011 16:16:32 GMT -5
I posted this elsewhere but wanted to include it here as well.... A tiny number of plants compared to my previous gardens but with the relocation and all that was involved with getting everything set back up, I was lucky to have these. Here is a photo taken yesterday  The building above to the far right is a storage building that I converted into a potting shed. I wanted to get away from using artificial lights to grow transplants and this building allows me to do that. Here is another photo of the current garden:  I have fruit set on a few varieties thus far: Polish Dwarf, New Big Dwarf, Casey's Pure Yellow, Nyagous and Azoychka. More coming.... Jay |
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Post by jcm05 on Mar 28, 2011 16:33:42 GMT -5
Nice Jay. Have you grown Polish Dwarf before? Its the most productive dwarf I've ever grown.
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Post by bvgardener on Mar 28, 2011 16:36:48 GMT -5
Sure have....Polish Dwarf is one of my favorites. When I first grew it, I could not believe the number of fruit it produced. Incredible for such a small plant.
Jay
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Post by bvgardener on Apr 2, 2011 19:23:44 GMT -5
Here is a photo from inside the potting shed/greenhouse I made out of an old storage building. Jay  |
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Post by jcm05 on Apr 2, 2011 20:17:03 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by blane on Apr 2, 2011 20:38:42 GMT -5
Nice work Jay...
Might I ask ya, what Heat types are you planning on growing out this year?
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Post by puttgirl on Apr 2, 2011 20:49:03 GMT -5
That IS nice. Is that three stakes per row? About 5 or 6 tomatoes per?
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Post by summerhawk on Apr 3, 2011 7:36:02 GMT -5
I posted this elsewhere but wanted to include it here as well.... A tiny number of plants compared to my previous gardens but with the relocation and all that was involved with getting everything set back up, I was lucky to have these. Here is a photo taken yesterday The building above to the far right is a storage building that I converted into a potting shed. I wanted to get away from using artificial lights to grow transplants and this building allows me to do that. Here is another photo of the current garden: I have fruit set on a few varieties thus far: Polish Dwarf, New Big Dwarf, Casey's Pure Yellow, Nyagous and Azoychka. More coming.... Jay I see your greenhouse! Cool! Got more pics of it? Nice...  |
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Post by bvgardener on Apr 3, 2011 21:38:07 GMT -5
Thanks everyone.
Blane - I don't have any heat types this year. I may pencil in some for next year. This year I was too limited with what I could grow.
puttgirl - I have one 6' T-post on each end of a row and two 3' posts within each row.
summerhawk - sure do. I took more photos today and will get some posted tomorrow.
Jay
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Post by bvgardener on Apr 5, 2011 12:44:16 GMT -5
A few photos: Azoychka  Polish Dwarf  A garden photo from last Sunday. I have another short row behind me in that photo that is not shown.  |
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Post by willyswoodpile on Apr 5, 2011 12:53:50 GMT -5
Very nice BV.
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Post by bvgardener on Apr 15, 2011 7:33:18 GMT -5
Hey guys, I posted this over on GW and wanted to post here as well. It seems I'm always whining about something doesn't it? ;D
I'm done folks. You have read my post about the leaf distortions and now with what I saw related to that on all of my plants this afternoon, I've come to a decision.
I thought about this back in 2009 when I was going through this same thing with the leaf and fruit distortions on virtually all plants. Back then, it was somewhat less of an issue because of when my plants started showing signs which was much later in the season. This allowed me to get a decent harvest. But even then I was thinking about the loss which was still significant.
Fast forward to 2010. Same distortions but much earlier in the season - early April. Of course ultimately it did not matter as the hail storm took care of those plants.
But now here we are in 2011 and I did not even come close to making it out of March and the leaf distortions were there. When I came home this evening, I walked out to the garden to observe all of the fruit distorted. All of the time spent moving the garden and preparing it. Setting it all up has come to naught.
Whether this is CMV or herbide, it is not practicle and for all intents and purposes, not possible to prevent. If this is herbicide drift, I can't control what the neighbors do and besides, the soil is already contaminated or will be recontaminated on a seasonal basis. If it's CMV, that can't be controlled either because it's primarily transmitted by aphids and from a practical standpoint, those can't be controlled either. Spraying for aphids will not work....it's just not an effective solution.
Beyond that, I'm not going to feed my family or anyone else herbicide laced tomatoes if thats what it turns out to be. Either way I'm in a situation where I can't win so it's time to call it a day. I've battled many issues over the years: nematodes - I won that battle. TSWV - it's never been a real issue and typically only affected one or two fruit per season. But in regards to herbicide or CMV, I'm not going to grow numerous plants each year while holding my breath that the plants will not once again become infected and ruin the whole crop.
So with that said, I'm moving on from gardening. It's a shame when you think about the time and money spent - the hundreds and hundreds of plants that I have grown. But it is what it is.
I may post here again in the future with a large seed offer to distribute my seed inventory which is quite significant.
This may seem drastic but it's certainly not an overnight phenomenon. With three years in a row with this and it increasingly getting worse, I would be planting just to be planting. Essentially going through the motions as there is no definitive solution. Part of the reason for this smaller garden I have this year was to evaluate the new garden area before going back to growing large numbers of plants but I'm not going to spend all of the time and effort just to watch plants produce fruit that are inedible and unrepresentative of what they should be.
So with that said it's time to let it go.
Peace,
Jay
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Post by willyswoodpile on Apr 15, 2011 12:47:54 GMT -5
Hey guys, I posted this over on GW and wanted to post here as well. It seems I'm always whining about something doesn't it? ;D I'm done folks. You have read my post about the leaf distortions and now with what I saw related to that on all of my plants this afternoon, I've come to a decision. I thought about this back in 2009 when I was going through this same thing with the leaf and fruit distortions on virtually all plants. Back then, it was somewhat less of an issue because of when my plants started showing signs which was much later in the season. This allowed me to get a decent harvest. But even then I was thinking about the loss which was still significant. Fast forward to 2010. Same distortions but much earlier in the season - early April. Of course ultimately it did not matter as the hail storm took care of those plants. But now here we are in 2011 and I did not even come close to making it out of March and the leaf distortions were there. When I came home this evening, I walked out to the garden to observe all of the fruit distorted. All of the time spent moving the garden and preparing it. Setting it all up has come to naught. Whether this is CMV or herbide, it is not practicle and for all intents and purposes, not possible to prevent. If this is herbicide drift, I can't control what the neighbors do and besides, the soil is already contaminated or will be recontaminated on a seasonal basis. If it's CMV, that can't be controlled either because it's primarily transmitted by aphids and from a practical standpoint, those can't be controlled either. Spraying for aphids will not work....it's just not an effective solution. Beyond that, I'm not going to feed my family or anyone else herbicide laced tomatoes if thats what it turns out to be. Either way I'm in a situation where I can't win so it's time to call it a day. I've battled many issues over the years: nematodes - I won that battle. TSWV - it's never been a real issue and typically only affected one or two fruit per season. But in regards to herbicide or CMV, I'm not going to grow numerous plants each year while holding my breath that the plants will not once again become infected and ruin the whole crop. So with that said, I'm moving on from gardening. It's a shame when you think about the time and money spent - the hundreds and hundreds of plants that I have grown. But it is what it is. I may post here again in the future with a large seed offer to distribute my seed inventory which is quite significant. This may seem drastic but it's certainly not an overnight phenomenon. With three years in a row with this and it increasingly getting worse, I would be planting just to be planting. Essentially going through the motions as there is no definitive solution. Part of the reason for this smaller garden I have this year was to evaluate the new garden area before going back to growing large numbers of plants but I'm not going to spend all of the time and effort just to watch plants produce fruit that are inedible and unrepresentative of what they should be. So with that said it's time to let it go. Peace, Jay I think you should give your local or State college's horticulture department a call. Have the students come out and diagnose your problem. It would be a very good experience for them; and they have the resources. Or the local Farm Bureau, or The Future Farmers of America. There are umpteen sources that you could get a hold of without having to lift a finger, except for the phone. You might offer a donation...? Here is some links: Anybody in the Texas area please feel free to offer resources to BV. aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/ |
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Post by jcm05 on Apr 15, 2011 14:36:05 GMT -5
Jay, Pretty disheartening to read. Sorry to hear it. Wish there was something you could do.
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Post by grunt on Apr 16, 2011 1:42:31 GMT -5
Jay, before you pull the plug, find out for sure which/what the problem is. If you can have them give you a diagnosis, they may also be able to give you information on a cure/prevention (or not).
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