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Post by willyswoodpile on Mar 17, 2011 20:23:01 GMT -5
This is one that I am interested in this year. It is a native tomato of the Philippine Islands. It is from the Ilocos Province. (The northern most island) It is called Kamatis Tagalog... "Kamatis" means "tomato" and "Tagalog" means "native" snipI sent some seeds to Blane. He dropped some seeds in the dirt as well... Has anyone ever heard of these before? The guy I got them from lives in the Philippines and says that he had been looking for them for years... He said that he was happy to have gotten seed... I am looking forward to trialing this one... I will be sure to post the progress and results. I hope that Blane will do the same!  I've never heard of them but I really dig how they look. I am intrigued. |
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Post by puttgirl on Mar 17, 2011 20:24:39 GMT -5
Nice looking seedling, too.
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Post by blane on Mar 17, 2011 20:39:03 GMT -5
Mine have sprouted! 4 days from dropping them, thanks Jason!  |
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Post by willyswoodpile on Mar 17, 2011 21:02:06 GMT -5
Mine have sprouted! 4 days from dropping them, thanks Jason! x with a Darth Mater ...? |
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Post by soren on Mar 18, 2011 5:25:01 GMT -5
I am growing this too! I got my seeds from pinakbet over at T'ville. I am thinking of crossing it with Spudatula? His fruit looked like this:  |
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Post by redneckplanter on Mar 18, 2011 9:33:56 GMT -5
dems purdy.wonder what the heat tolerance is?
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Post by hillbillypie on Mar 18, 2011 12:08:24 GMT -5
This is not an unknown tomato, just one that has been misspelled. The tomato is quite known and is believed to have been a cultivated variety that was brought to the Philippines and sort of "escaped". Like a "volunteer". Somewhere there is a tomato in cultivation that has a name and is the same as this one. The name is supposed to be Kamatis Na Ligaw which would loosely translate into "the lost tomato" or "the one that got away". It is cultivated but at one point was considered a "wild" growing type even though there is nothing that resembles any wild type. I hope this helps clear up some confusion. There are others that you might be interested in. Nagcarlang, Filipino #2, and Susong Kalabaw all came from the Philippines. I mentioned one of these in the tread "Heirloom Apparitions".
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Post by darthslater on Mar 18, 2011 22:41:06 GMT -5
Which By the way is a great thread that needs to be updated, no matter how many people tell the emperor his clothes look fine. |
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Post by tucsontomato on Mar 21, 2011 22:59:30 GMT -5
This is not an unknown tomato, just one that has been misspelled. The tomato is quite known and is believed to have been a cultivated variety that was brought to the Philippines and sort of "escaped". Like a "volunteer". Somewhere there is a tomato in cultivation that has a name and is the same as this one. The name is supposed to be Kamatis Na Ligaw which would loosely translate into "the lost tomato" or "the one that got away". It is cultivated but at one point was considered a "wild" growing type even though there is nothing that resembles any wild type. I hope this helps clear up some confusion. There are others that you might be interested in. Nagcarlang, Filipino #2, and Susong Kalabaw all came from the Philippines. I mentioned one of these in the tread "Heirloom Apparitions". A thought for the heat resistance- in areas Zone 10 and above farmers often grow tomatoes in the region's winter. One example of this is in Southern Florida where they grow tomatoes for a winter/spring crop. If I plant a winter cultivar (variety) of tomato in my summer garden, it may not do so well. Those of you growing this variety- please keep us updated on how it does- particularly in the heat! |
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Post by hillbillypie on Mar 23, 2011 9:50:29 GMT -5
I think it is important to correct the name and to pass that information on to all the other people who might have received seed. If you would like to try one of the others I mentioned send me a PM. I have passed around quite a few of those seeds but I have a few left. Since I just have a few I will have to limit this to just Summerhawk, sorry.
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Post by soren on Apr 1, 2011 6:51:41 GMT -5
They are called Kamatis Tagalog in the Philippines. You received them as Kamatis Tagalog, I received them as Kamatis Tagalog and another T'ville member from the Philippines said that he knew them as Kamatis Tagalog too. So why rename them?
My source wrote that his mom said that it was the "common" tomato during her days.
Hillbillypie - where did you get your information?
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Post by blane on Apr 1, 2011 6:56:35 GMT -5
Jason,
Is your source considering re-naming these too?
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Post by soren on Apr 1, 2011 7:52:43 GMT -5
I am starting to think that it is more a landrace than a actual variety.
I must say I like name Kamatis Tagalog better than Kamatis Na Ligaw, and I also want to be respectful to the person who shared the seeds with me. So for now, I will keep calling mine Kamatis Tagalog.
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Post by hillbillypie on Apr 1, 2011 10:19:40 GMT -5
I like the name Britney so when I get mine I am calling it Britney. I also thought Brandywine sounded gay so I am now calling those "Chuck".
PM me if anyone needs seeds of "Chuck".
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Post by soren on Apr 1, 2011 11:03:23 GMT -5
I like the name Britney so when I get mine I am calling it Britney. I also thought Brandywine sounded gay so I am now calling those "Chuck". PM me if anyone needs seeds of "Chuck". So no, you don't have any source for your information regarding this variety?  I wish everyone could just act like adults on ALL of these forums. Intelligent people can have different opinions and even disagreements and still be friends without trash talking, banning, whining, etc. |
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