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Post by PVP on Mar 31, 2011 13:32:36 GMT -5
Just some preliminary observations with an invitation for others to contribute if they're growing this Nagcarlang tomato from the Phillipines. Pictures may follow next week.
I got about 15 seeds sent to me by Hillbilliepie.
I planted 7 seeds on 23 March, 2011.
The tray was kept in a black plastic bag on the front seed of my pickup truck with outdoor temps in the mid 70s daytime and high 40s - mid 50s at night (Fehrenheit). Of course, since the windows were rolled up most of the way, it was warmer in the cab daytime and not that cool at night. But not ideal germinating conditions none the less.
The Nagcarlang were among the first to sprout.
I have 6 healthy seedlings now under florescent lighting.
The first true leaves are smooth edged and three lobed, not looking like "regular leaf" shapes, but probably not potato leaf either. Will wait a bit longer to take a photograph to show this shape.
Three seedlings have well expressed anthocyanin in stems. But other 3 have clear green stems. Does anyone know what this may mean in relation to ms/green stem male sterile linkage, or non-self fertile characteristics of this tomato, if applicable?
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Post by hillbillypie on Apr 4, 2011 11:07:20 GMT -5
My seedlings look like Cilantro instead of tomatoes. I don't recall looking at them before I transplanted them, so I have no idea if I had a mix of stem color as well. I sent seed to a few people but I never heard if anyone planted them or not. It should be an interesting grow and I am looking forward to see if it sets fruit when the relative humidity and temp are both in the 90's here.
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Post by PVP on Apr 4, 2011 11:50:21 GMT -5
Had a late sprouter come up over weekend.
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Post by PVP on Apr 5, 2011 17:15:15 GMT -5
Blane, when referring to anthocyanin here I am speaking of the stuff that turns the stems of the little sprouts purple. When I don't see purple stems, when I see glassy clear green stems on the little plants, I think possibly there could be a green stem gene linked to a male sterile gene at work ... especially when I see both green and purple stems in the same plant population. But no, this is not about the P20 or OSU Blue anthocyanin genes expressed in the fruit.
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Post by nordfyr315 on Apr 7, 2011 21:34:50 GMT -5
I acquired some seeds from a fruit I purchased on the streets of Angeles City last year. So far they are interesting little seedlings. They sprouted first and are the largest so far of the dozen or so varieties I planted. I have five seedlings and they all have green stems. Similar observations regarding their first true leaves. Not potato leafed but also more rounded than most RL. I also noticed that they are less "skunky" smelling than my other varieties.
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Post by jcm05 on Apr 8, 2011 8:00:18 GMT -5
I acquired some seeds from a fruit I purchased on the streets of Angeles City last year. So far they are interesting little seedlings. They sprouted first and are the largest so far of the dozen or so varieties I planted. I have five seedlings and they all have green stems. Similar observations regarding their first true leaves. Not potato leafed but also more rounded than most RL. I also noticed that they are less "skunky" smelling than my other varieties. Welcome nord.
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Post by nordfyr315 on May 22, 2011 21:19:45 GMT -5
Mine hostinga.imagecross.com/image-hosting-01/6628downsized_0518111253a.jpgYes, crap picture but it honestly looks unremarkable at this point. A little more vigorous than my other plants and generally more tolerant of the excessive rain we have been getting here in upstate NY. Will upload more when I have something more postworthy. Really excited about this variety.
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Post by nordfyr315 on May 24, 2011 22:07:15 GMT -5
Better pic of one of my Nagcarlang babies. Attachments:
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Post by nordfyr315 on Jun 7, 2011 21:26:05 GMT -5
How are everyone else's? Mine started getting buds in the last few days. My fav tomato of 2011 so far.... Attachments:
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Post by nordfyr315 on Jun 12, 2011 23:25:17 GMT -5
Hmmm...looks like your plant has more suckers but otherwise not too different. When I like a plant I tend to overfertilize and I ended up giving this one insane amounts of nitrogen. Hence her neon-blue leaves. Oh, and I named mine Princess Baby-Lynn. Taking tomato obsession to a new level....
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Post by jcm05 on Jun 13, 2011 6:33:48 GMT -5
Those look completely different to me.
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Post by nordfyr315 on Jun 13, 2011 23:49:40 GMT -5
Hmmmm, yeah. My leaves are a lot broader, fewer and darker. Then again, Nagcarlang does not seem to be a very stable variety. Here is a picture of the fruits from UC Davis: tgrc.ucdavis.edu/Images/LA2661-fruit.jpg Here is a picture of what I acquired in the Philippines. hostinga.imagecross.com/image-hosting-02/3176P8150164.JPGNeither match the USDA description as oblate and 7 loculed. Methinks Nagcarlang is mostly just a word for heterozygous tomatoes that originate in Nagcarlan, Laguna, Republic of the Philippines.
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Post by nordfyr315 on Jun 14, 2011 22:38:41 GMT -5
I have ten varieties from the Philippines but only Nagcarlang made it into the ground this year. Now I really have something to look forward to planting in 2012! I have some seeds for Filipino #2 and would have loved growing it. I read somewhere that it is actually a black, a trait I heard originated in Russia in the 50s. If #2 is black, then I would say that theory is most likely incorrect. Any pics of your #2 plants?
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Post by nordfyr315 on Jun 22, 2011 15:26:53 GMT -5
Hmmmmm, well mine have now started to set fruit and I am not seeing exerted pistils. Anyone seeing this trait or lack thereof? Still great, vigorous plants. As a typical act of tomato hubris I should proclaim the discovery of a "new" variety and just call it "Ano" or "Wala". Hehe....
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Post by nordfyr315 on Jul 1, 2011 20:33:42 GMT -5
Hmmmm, my blossoms are definitely different.
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