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Post by frogsleapfarm on Nov 17, 2011 22:55:27 GMT -5
Wow, those are beauties Keith
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Post by maf on Nov 18, 2011 17:46:31 GMT -5
Very interesting. I like the look of the second one even better than the first.
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Post by littleminnie on Nov 18, 2011 22:39:00 GMT -5
I love tomatoes that are gold/orange outside and red inside. They look extra tasty!
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Post by swampr on Nov 19, 2011 11:26:42 GMT -5
how is the flavor? do they store/keep at all in the ripe stage?
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Post by jcm05 on Nov 19, 2011 18:39:55 GMT -5
If someone wants to look at a bunch of cherries I should still have ample F2 seed I believe. <<raises hand>> Granite countertops in the lab???
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Post by johno on Nov 29, 2011 2:20:03 GMT -5
'Ananas Noire' types seem to show up when the bicolor and the "gf" genes interact. There also seems to be some variation likely from r. That is (r+/r) , (r+/r+) or r/r differences.
The first sentence is very interesting. Thanks for that. Could you explain the next sentences a bit further? I don't quite understand.
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Post by johno on Dec 1, 2011 14:04:51 GMT -5
Yes, that helps. Thanks. I volunteer some space if you have any particular one that needs grown out in large numbers to look for a specific trait.
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Post by frogsleapfarm on Dec 3, 2011 17:13:57 GMT -5
Keith - is Sungold contributing Del or some other pigment mutation?
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Post by jcm05 on Dec 13, 2011 6:48:58 GMT -5
What is that thing in those last two pictures with the family name on it?
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Post by gardenmax on Dec 23, 2011 5:11:39 GMT -5
Mule This is a fascinating thread. Great to see what you are doing with your commentry on what you think is occuring. Looking forward to more. Cheers Max
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Post by frogsleapfarm on Dec 25, 2011 17:50:59 GMT -5
Wow, I like that one Keith.
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Post by gobmaters on Dec 27, 2011 19:35:43 GMT -5
What gene(s) for color do these fruit have? Do the stripes on H and I stay green or turn yellow when the fruit advance in ripening? Thanks.
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Post by frogsleapfarm on Dec 27, 2011 22:48:52 GMT -5
What gene(s) for color do these fruit have? Do the stripes on H and I stay green or turn yellow when the fruit advance in ripening? Thanks. Yeah, I have not seen that color combo - green stripes on orange.
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Post by jcm05 on Dec 28, 2011 6:55:07 GMT -5
I thought I had a photo of ripe LA3706. This is the variety unripe.
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Post by gobmaters on Dec 28, 2011 19:21:33 GMT -5
I have only seen green stripes on the fruit remain green on fully ripened fruit when the recessive green flesh gene (gf) is present in homozygous condition with or without the gene for red flesh present (brown, purple, or green fruit when ripe). With the gf gene absent or in heterozygous condition, the stripes always turn yellow as fruit fully ripen. With the clear skin trait present (pink fruit color), the stripes seem to turn yellow later in ripening than when the fruit has yellow skin and also turn to more of a muted yellow color with the clear skin. The selections I have made of pink fruit with stripes are the most attractive color combination, in my opinion, at the stage when the fruit show pink color but the stripes are still green and have not yet started to turn yellow. I think this combination would be ideal to market at this stage of ripeness. I am working on putting stripes together with tangerine color and wonder if the stripes will still be apparent when the fruit ripen or be masked by the orange fruit color. Any photos of this combination? Perhaps these could also be marketed early enough in ripening that the stripes are still in the green stage. Tangerine colored fruit have some yellowish orange color inside even in the immature stage and start to show exterior color at an earlier stage in ripening than do red fruit. They also show more of an orange than yellow color on the flower petals and anthers, which can be used to select tangerine segregants at the flowering stage.
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