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Post by GunnarSK on Feb 23, 2010 10:47:22 GMT -5
By reading the promotional descriptions I found that PNOS Ozarow Mazowiecki (my main supplier of seeds) offers two varieties with potato leaves, both of which I will grow: Malinowy Ozarowski (a pink big indeterminate) and Ola Polka (a yellow determinate cherry tomato). There are seeds of Ola Polka around, but probably no one has seeds of Malinowy Ozarowski except what I have distributed (not very much).
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Post by PVP on Feb 23, 2010 17:57:19 GMT -5
Gunnar, I am so glad to see you here at The Tomato Garden!
Please list for us the Polish designations for tomato colors such as Malinowy = Pink, et cetera.
For example, would Zalinowy = Green?
I think there also are very similar adjective words in Russian, right?
Thanks, Bill
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Post by GunnarSK on Feb 25, 2010 15:01:10 GMT -5
Gunnar, I am so glad to see you here at The Tomato Garden! Please list for us the Polish designations for tomato colors such as Malinowy = Pink, et cetera. I think there also are very similar adjective words in Russian, right? Thanks, Bill The most common colours in Polish are: czerwony - red zielony - green ¿ó³ty - yellow niebieski - blue fioletowy - purple pomaranczowy -orange czarny - black bia³y - white br¹zowy - brown be¿owy - beige kremowy - cream-coloured malinowy (raspberry-coloured) is of course pink for tomatoes, but this is not the regular colour-designation, which is ró¿owy (rose-coloured)
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Post by stratcat on Feb 27, 2010 0:20:56 GMT -5
Colors with the diacritical marks intact:
żółty for yellow biały for white brązowy for brown beżowy for beige złoty for gold
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Post by GunnarSK on Mar 18, 2010 17:02:44 GMT -5
Malinowy Ozarowski (a pink big indeterminate) and Ola Polka (a yellow cherry tomato). Members of a Polish forum that I frequent have confirmed that some of the red determinates are also potato leaved: Betalux, a very early variety and Kmicic, an early tomato, both of which I have purchased (from PNOS Ozarow Mazowiecki) and will probably grow.
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Post by GunnarSK on Mar 21, 2010 17:25:49 GMT -5
It seems that another of my Polish pinks is potato-leaved as well, namely Malinowy Warszawski, an indeterminate from Plantico. I will be able to tell it (and how it compares to Malinowy Ozarowski) more definitely later in the season.
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Post by stratcat on Mar 21, 2010 21:16:50 GMT -5
Sounds interesting, gunnarsk! Let us know how they do.
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Post by GunnarSK on Mar 31, 2010 15:55:16 GMT -5
On the Polish forum I asked specifically for pictures showing that Kmicic and Malinowy Warszawski are potato-leaved. Here is what I got regarding Kmicic, is that good enough proof, or do I have to wait for my own grow out?
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Post by GunnarSK on Apr 17, 2010 9:19:41 GMT -5
Apart from the commercial varieties some of the crosses made by Kozula have the potential to yield potato-leaved plants, as some American PLs are among the parents.
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Post by PVP on Apr 17, 2010 16:36:01 GMT -5
Apart from the commercial varieties some of the crosses made by Kozula have the potential to yield potato-leaved plants, as some American PLs are among the parents. Gunnar, Tell us more about Kozula. Background, etc. What American potato leaf varieties are used as parents?
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Post by GunnarSK on Apr 17, 2010 16:53:45 GMT -5
Gunnar, Tell us more about Kozula. Background, etc. What American potato leaf varieties are used as parents? I don't know a lot about Kozula, but she is the most prominent and active tomato breeder in Poland. When I find out more, I will post it. The American PLs used in her breeding are: Japanese Black Trifele Black Pear At least for now I don't know of any others. Gunnar
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Post by PVP on Apr 17, 2010 16:58:57 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with Grithmire's Pride.
Thanks for looking into Kozula and her work with tomatoes. It should be very interesting and we are all eager to read about it.
My mother's family is Polish and some immigrated as late as the 1930s, so I'm personally interested in whatever you can find out about tomato breeders in Poland today.
Bill
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 20, 2010 16:34:00 GMT -5
PV, I'm guessing that it's actually Grightmire's Pride from Wm Dam Seeds of Hamilton, Ontario (Canada). www.damseeds.ca/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=2234The older Wm Dam Seeds catalogues used to say that it was originally from Yugoslavia and grown for years by local (Dundas, Ontario) gardener Fred Grightmire. I'm guessing that the original Yugoslavian varietal name has long since been forgotten.
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Post by GunnarSK on Apr 21, 2010 3:49:56 GMT -5
It's interesting about Grithmire's/Grightmire's Pride. I don't know that variety from other sources either, so I will run the information through my Polish connections. According to the most recent information, Szach is also potato-leaved (see this Idig thread: www.idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30332), so there are 7 commercial varieties in Poland with potato leaves in three different categories: Pink indeterminate beefsteaks: Malinowy Ozarowski, Malinowy Warszawski and Malinowy Retro Red determinates with smaller fruit: Betalux, Kmicic and Szach Ola Polka, a determinate, yellow cherry. Spud has or will receive most of them, possibly with the exception of Szach. I didn't start that one either, and possibly I will have to reorder it. Most varieties are available at PNOS Ozarow Mazowiecki, but I had to get Malinowy Warszawski and Malinowy Retro from Plantico.
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Post by GunnarSK on Apr 23, 2010 4:14:37 GMT -5
PV, I'm guessing that it's actually Grightmire's Pride from Wm Dam Seeds of Hamilton, Ontario (Canada). www.damseeds.ca/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=2234The older Wm Dam Seeds catalogues used to say that it was originally from Yugoslavia and grown for years by local (Dundas, Ontario) gardener Fred Grightmire. I'm guessing that the original Yugoslavian varietal name has long since been forgotten. This is partially my fault, because the original name was "Grihtmire's Pride", and instead of checking I just assumed that "t" and "h" had interchanged places.
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