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Post by darthslater on Aug 29, 2010 13:54:23 GMT -5
Wow I forgot how much I like this one, a great old standby for a good tasting sizeable tomato, I also planted Spudakee, which for me was a bit smaller but seemed to taste a little better, Spudakee is the PL version. I dont have a real good pic but feel free to post yours!! This one is for sure a classic.
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Post by jcm05 on Aug 30, 2010 6:15:32 GMT -5
I never forget how much I like it. It is a must grow for me with brandywine, sungold and lucky cross.
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Post by tomc on Aug 31, 2010 9:48:31 GMT -5
Tslagi purple is an excelent tomato for any OP tomato grower to at least trial. As Darth suggests this cultivar is one you'll keep coming back to.
Much as I like eating this tomato it IS an unesthetic color. Please try to put your eyes in neutral untill after you have eaten as least a couple.
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Post by darthslater on Aug 31, 2010 11:27:08 GMT -5
Thank you for the pic John.
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Post by ozarklady on Aug 31, 2010 13:12:06 GMT -5
Either Cherokee Purple is a lousy drought tomato, or the one I got is not a true Cherokee Purple. The fruits are small, ugly colored things. And the taste is lousy, grocery store ones taste better. If this is as good as they get, I won't be growing it again.
I preferred: OSU and Hillbilly and even Pink Oxheart. They had taste!
Could it be someone goofed on the seeds that I got? It was tart, and then it was sour... yuck, and the fruits were small, not even standard sized, but not quite a cherry.
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Post by darthslater on Aug 31, 2010 17:41:57 GMT -5
Either Cherokee Purple is a lousy drought tomato, or the one I got is not a true Cherokee Purple. The fruits are small, ugly colored things. And the taste is lousy, grocery store ones taste better. If this is as good as they get, I won't be growing it again. I preferred: OSU and Hillbilly and even Pink Oxheart. They had taste! Could it be someone goofed on the seeds that I got? It was tart, and then it was sour... yuck, and the fruits were small, not even standard sized, but not quite a cherry. That definitely is NOT Cherokee Purple! mine were all a pound or better, and Blane lives in Mississippi and gets very good results in that heat. perhaps you can get seeds from him, so you know yours will tolerate the heat.
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Post by ozarklady on Aug 31, 2010 20:29:03 GMT -5
They were commercial seeds, that I started. The basic color is correct. I had such high hopes for it, and it was so very disappointing. But, with a major drought, the entire gardening season has been a disappointment. It is only fair to give all plants another chance, but Cherokee will be very much on probation.
In a wetter year, my favorites just might do lousy, only time will tell.
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Post by hillbillypie on Aug 31, 2010 21:16:52 GMT -5
CP is one that I grow. It is always good, but not always productive. Mine never get as big as the one in the pics but they really are THAT good. I'm just a 150 miles or so south of you and I've never had one taste bad. CP is one of those tomatoes that has the perfect blend of flavors. Don't give up on it.
I bet one of these guys would send a few seeds your way.
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Post by tomc on Sept 1, 2010 6:20:33 GMT -5
The fruits are small, ugly colored things. And the taste is lousy. Could it be someone goofed on the seeds that I got? It was tart, and then it was sour... yuck, and the fruits were small, not even standard sized, but not quite a cherry. Someone posted a photo linked to this thread. If yours did not look at least something like the oblate one pounders, then maybe you were growing out not true-to-type seed irregardless of its origins.
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Post by ozarklady on Sept 1, 2010 11:53:22 GMT -5
It looks like it. But try the 2-3 ounce range. 3 plants produced exactly 2 tomatoes same size.
Perhaps these were first tomatoes? I have heard that we should never judge a tomato by the first fruit.
Have you found them not very drought tolerant?
I have to pick Hillbilly and OSU on a regular schedule, they didn't give up for heat or drought, and taste is fantastic. Hillbilly is also my largest tomato this year. Belgian Giant came in with about a 4 ounce fruit. Ponderosa Pink hit the 2 ounce range. Banana Legs are in the 2 ounce range. Peach Blow Sutton has hit 3-4 ounce consistently and consistently with BER.
I have 2 hillbilly to be picked today in the 5-6 ounce range, I woud guess, they are the largest of the year, and would fit in your palm reasonably well.
Cherokee is alive, but not blooming at this point.
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Post by darthslater on Sept 1, 2010 14:32:08 GMT -5
It looks like it. But try the 2-3 ounce range. 3 plants produced exactly 2 tomatoes same size. Perhaps these were first tomatoes? I have heard that we should never judge a tomato by the first fruit. Have you found them not very drought tolerant? I have to pick Hillbilly and OSU on a regular schedule, they didn't give up for heat or drought, and taste is fantastic. Hillbilly is also my largest tomato this year. Belgian Giant came in with about a 4 ounce fruit. Ponderosa Pink hit the 2 ounce range. Banana Legs are in the 2 ounce range. Peach Blow Sutton has hit 3-4 ounce consistently and consistently with BER. I have 2 hillbilly to be picked today in the 5-6 ounce range, I woud guess, they are the largest of the year, and would fit in your palm reasonably well. Cherokee is alive, but not blooming at this point. I also believe you may have a soil problem, you dont seem to have it ammended correctly, even in drought conditions you shod be seeing some size as to the species you are growing, micro nutrients are very important, they give the added boost to size and taste, I suggest a good soil test kit or.. take it to your local agriculture exchange and have them test it. you are absoulutly lacking something in the soil. others here like Amiduetch can help with suggestions, and Jt knows alot about ammending, there are lots of others here that can help!!
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Post by ozarklady on Sept 1, 2010 20:56:40 GMT -5
I did a soil test. It only needed nitrogen in early spring.
But, without adequate water, the nutrients are locked up... I have clay soil and it won't let them go. I have foliar fed them, but basically they just aren't getting enough of anything at all. Poor plants, I should be proud of them for just being alive... even zuchini failed this year!
It has rained all day today... that is a first since May! Since the plants are alive, perhaps there is hope for them yet. I will go ahead and re-side dress them, and see what they can do in the 2-3 months they have left to grow.
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Post by peppereater on Sept 3, 2010 0:28:08 GMT -5
I'm wondering if the one spot where they were planted was just lacking something essential, or had a pH too high or low...I've never heard anything negative about CP, and when I grew it in '08 and '09, it was the best performer in my garden (well, ARGG produced tons of fruit over a long period in '09,) and thrived through extreme heat. It continued to blossom and set fruit when other things were either struggling oe simply dying off, and flavorwise, it's my favorite tomato next to Brandywine. At the end of last season, I had to pick close to a dozen tomatoes at different stages of under-ripe before the first frost, and ALL the ones I took indoors ripened over a several week period to near perfection, basically as good as vine ripened. I was still eating them into November. I swore I would always grow CP after the first time, but this year, most of my varieties were lost to freak storms and about everything else you could imagine, so CP never made it to the table, but not because of any fault of the variety. By all means give it another try, maybe try to seed sources side by side. After my many failures this season, I'd like to grow a solid row of CP, Spudakee and one or two other CP variants. Barring another year of total disaster like this year, I'm sure I could count on great tomatoes summer-long, regardless of heat, drought, or anything.
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Post by jcm05 on Sept 3, 2010 6:01:37 GMT -5
Keep amending that clay soil with organic material ozark. It will eventually loosen up.
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Post by frdmfrc on Sept 4, 2010 13:08:11 GMT -5
Here's a picture I took this morning of a few of our Cherokee Purples that are almost ready. It is one of our favorites. We've had a couple ripen this year so far, but are excited there's now 3-4 almost ready on a couple of plants. Attachments:
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