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Post by PVP on Dec 9, 2010 17:49:03 GMT -5
Carolyn, are you saying you'd like to grow SpudaYellow Strawberry? Here is the leaf and fruit shapes: Generally, all fruit essentially are blemish free: They will turn a nice shade of orange if left to go dead ripe ... ... but I pretty much pick my tomatoes a bit before they are fully ripe to avoid problems. There should be no problem regarding sufficient seed. pv
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Post by carolyn137 on Dec 9, 2010 21:22:19 GMT -5
Yes, I'm saying I'd like to grow it and someone has already offered me seed, if that's what you're doing and thanks if you were. And thanks for the pictures and I assume it's completely stable. Right?
This past season I was one of several who was sent seeds from a deliberate cross between German Red Strawberry and Dr. Wyche. The results were really interesting and the person who saved the seeds saved them from three different fruits, numbered those, and as luck would have it I got the seeds that gave folks self pollenized Dr. Wyche. ;D
But others did get the desired red cross.
Carolyn
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Post by darthslater on Dec 10, 2010 0:20:28 GMT -5
I would be glad to send some for that bothersome Green unstable heart that you are sitting on!! ;D
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Post by PVP on Dec 10, 2010 8:33:04 GMT -5
The seeds for SpudaYellow Strawberry that Darth and I have for distribution to TTG members are stable in as far as I have grown them 3 years and gotten the same fruit characteristics and leaf shape each time.
So, if the source of the seeds offered to you, Carolyn, are the same as our source seeds, I would say yes, this is a stable variety as it appears in the pictures I posted.
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Post by carolyn137 on Dec 10, 2010 8:56:37 GMT -5
The seeds for SpudaYellow Strawberry that Darth and I have for distribution to TTG members are stable in as far as I have grown them 3 years and gotten the same fruit characteristics and leaf shape each time. So, if the source of the seeds offered to you, Carolyn, are the same as our source seeds, I would say yes, this is a stable variety as it appears in the pictures I posted. pv Not naming names but the seeds offered to me were not directly from either you or Darth, so would it be a good idea if one of you could send me your stable seeds, I guess you PV, since you said yours have been stable for a few years and maybe payback for those MM and Smarty seeds I sent you? ;D Dean, I'm not sitting on any green when ripe heart. This past season both Craig and I grew four experimental hearts that are being developed by Reinhard Kraft in Germany. Yes, there was a green, a purple and I can't remember the other two colors. They were either F2 or F3's, as I remember Reinhard saying and he said he was pretty sure that he'd have to go out to at least the F7 or close to it. As it was I sent all my seeds for those hearts to Craig who now is raising all my plants for me. I got no fruits from any of the four, one plant each, and of course that was true for half of the varieties I had out there. Craig got no fruits either, b'c his plants were wiped out with TSWV. And Reinhard had sent him the same seeds he sent me. We both have known him for many many years and over the years I've sent him hundreds of varieties so it's been a good wroking relationship. You can see pictures of his green and purple hearts if you go to his website and look at the pictures from his 2009 growouts; he didn't show the pictures in his 2010 growouts. And Reinhard was very firm in saying that he trusted us not to share seeds of these hearts. And you and I have talked before about honoring those who make such requests, in terms of not just Tad, but also the several varieties of Tom Wagner's that I trialed for him in the 90's and he asked me the same, except he said I could share them with Craig, and I sent Craig only Verde Claro. But now I see the varieties I promised not to share seeds for being listed in the SSE YEarbook as well as some at some commercial places, so in this situation I PMed Tom, as courtesy, and said that I was going to try and get someone to grow out what I thought were the best ones ( regrown in 2002) and make them much more available to everyone. So we shall see. Carolyn
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Post by PVP on Dec 10, 2010 11:21:09 GMT -5
Darth, looks like we better get busy crossing TSWV-res into stuff for Craig! Look at that batch of stuff you got from NC and see if it included any interesting looking vars with TSWV-res.
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Post by sgtdraven on Dec 10, 2010 23:25:11 GMT -5
id like to grow it out
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Post by oneoftheearls on Jan 6, 2011 17:55:03 GMT -5
Great photos papavic.
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Post by bammer on Mar 10, 2011 22:27:35 GMT -5
Started these 2/12/11 100 % Germination 18/18 all have the same leaf form From the Bammership Attachments:
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Post by nolika on Mar 11, 2011 7:23:57 GMT -5
Were these already transplanted once? They look nice...
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Post by bammer on Mar 11, 2011 17:31:32 GMT -5
Were these already transplanted once? They look nice... Yes. They have been re-potted. I was hoping that Paps, Spud, Darth, or Blane would comment on the leaf form, They all appear to have the same leaf form, They just don't look PL to me.
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Post by PVP on Mar 11, 2011 17:37:22 GMT -5
I never considered Spudayellow Strawberry to be potato leaf. Look at the photo of the leaves top of page 2 here. That's what I got in all of mine, three different years. I think I got my seeds directly from Bill Malin, if I'm remembering correctly.
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Post by bammer on Mar 11, 2011 18:46:03 GMT -5
I never considered Spudayellow Strawberry to be potato leaf. Look at the photo of the leaves top of page 2 here. That's what I got in all of mine, three different years. I think I got my seeds directly from Bill Malin, if I'm remembering correctly. Yea, Guess I'm a bit slow, didn't think to look at your pics for the leaf shape. I feel better now looks like they're true to form, besides I got the seeds from you .....Thanks ... on a side note I planted a few of your CP X Bradley F2s, I hope their as productive as you say the F1s were.
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Post by blane on Mar 11, 2011 21:08:43 GMT -5
I never considered Spudayellow Strawberry to be potato leaf. Look at the photo of the leaves top of page 2 here. That's what I got in all of mine, three different years. I think I got my seeds directly from Bill Malin, if I'm remembering correctly. I havent grown these- Yet... But according to what Tatianas has listed...PL? This might be a dumb question...Are some PLs a RLs crossed together, have a chance to make a leaf form of both? t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Spudayellow_StrawberryAnd to add another addition later, (midnight in moscow)....has this strange pattern too-
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Post by PVP on Mar 11, 2011 21:46:39 GMT -5
I never considered Spudayellow Strawberry to be potato leaf. Look at the photo of the leaves top of page 2 here. That's what I got in all of mine, three different years. I think I got my seeds directly from Bill Malin, if I'm remembering correctly. I havent grown these- Yet... But according to what Tatianas has listed...PL? t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Spudayellow_StrawberryAnd to add another addition later, (midnight in moscow)....has this strange pattern too- Blane, at t.tatianastomatobase.com, you can see that the photographs are the same ones as I supplied above. That's because they are photographs of my tomatoes. While Tania posted my photographs clearly showing what I would call a form of regular leaf patterns, she also posted the following information from Spuds: Discovered in 2006 by Bill Malin of Hillsboro, New Mexico (NM MA W) (a.k.a. 'Spudleaf Willie' at tomato forums). Bill said: "I was growing regular leaf German Red Strawberry for a cross with a black variety and this huge golden yellow potato leaf variety appeared. The leaves are definitely potato leaf and have a long, narrow shape with 3 smooth serrations on each side and not the typical smooth edged leaves of many potato leaf [varieties]. The leaves are almost identical to those on Genuine Italian Potato Leaf which I also grew out this year." So, the individual tomato grower will have to decide for himself or herself whether a tomato leaf that has "a long, narrow shape with 3 smooth serrations on each side" in fact can be called a "potato leaf" shape. I prefer to not get into an argument about it, and just let the pictures speak for themselves. Please rest assured, the reason I provided the photographs to Tania and again here is precisely because the leaves on my plants have "3 smooth serrations on each side," and the plant and fruit otherwise conformed with Spuds's specifications ... visually.
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