TOW-POLISH GIANT 10-11-10

[darthslater]

This weeks pic is Polish Giant, certain parties base their descriptions on species verbatim, SSE ok, here is an example of foolishness, you decide. And I quote. This is why stuff gets lost in the HUGE mix: Direct Quote for one species:Polish Giant Beefsteak
IA FE S - HAS Large brown tomato has red stripes, good flavor fromNY Go A 08 via ia
sse HF,SSE TOMATO 3688 IL LON -HAS 90days indet., rl with fair yield of 14-24 oz pink beefsteak fruit very good flavor from NY GO A-MR { Here is the problem and a very bad system disfunctuality, this is the same tomato, yes? Listen!!! NY GO A- M.R
Gargantuan tomato 4+ lbs, for competitive vegetable growing. fromIA SSE HF
Ok, This system has failed, as has the color system, whos with me, you can be part of the solution or be run over by logic, I am not going away, We need a better way to describe things, a more accurate dis. Pinks is not dark nor is orange or yellow "Golden". Gold is a Metallic color which does not exist in tomatoes unless Mule is holding out!! So, It is either YELLOW, OR, Orange. It is either PURPLE OR PINK, Enough foolishness.

Darth

[jcm05]

Uhhh, did you take your meds today???

[sunflowers]

I beg to differ on your contention that their is no Gold in tomatoes.

Sure there is no METALIC color gold. But I have grown tomatoes that are not Yellow but are also not Orange but something in between with a kind of dusky over tone that makes the color "Gold" in my eyes.

Oh your comment about "White" really being "light green" isn't right either. Those tomatoes I've grown that are called "White" are really a very Pale Yellow.

I agree that some of the seeds I've gotten the last 2 years are poorly described tho. BWPS is a great example as I didn't see ANY pink in what I grew last year.

Purple, Brown, Black -- what dif does it make. All of those dark tomatoes vary so much in color due to varing growing conditions year to year that it's hard to pin them down anyway.

Personally I think a big part of the problem is the fact that MEN for the most part originally make the comments at the seed company growing stations. I once ordered a Pepper variety because the catalog described it as a unique shade of "Aqua". When I grew it, the color was no different than all the other greens I was growing.

Many men are at least partly color blind in one way or another. Not bad enough to be legally "color blind" but can't really tell colors well at all. Just look at what many men look like when they dress themselves. It hurts my eyes sometimes. My own Hubby calles ALL colors in the blue green - blue- blue purple ranges BLUE. He really can't tell the dif.

Besides if you want to get techinical about the colors -- what we call Red in tomatoes is really a red orange. And what we call Pink in tomatoes is really closer to a true Red.

I will agree that the system in the yearbook needs saome tweeking. When various listers describe the same variety quite differently, something is off. Most likely tho it's because too many people are growing too many tomatoes in too small a space and the plants inter-grow and are likely crossed and those crossed seeds are sent on to others that don't know what the variety is SUPPOSED to be.

Personally last year and this year I've gotten several varieties that produced multiple examples of fruit. Obviously crossed seeds.

Carol

[PVP]

Well, I'll be durn. They named a tomato after me!


pv

[PVP]

... and since I am an artist, I can call a tomato whatever damn color I damn well please. That's the Polish in me talkin' now.


pv

[sunflowers]

white queen



Fantom Du Laos



Sha / White Brandywine



Tell me those are GREEN-white and I will say you need an eye exam.

Carol

[darthslater]

Here is your "Whites WITH Yellow. Notice the diff? White Tomesol, Fantome Du Laos and Lillians Yellow, my eye sight is extremely good, and again , mine never got yellow unless they were rotting. And for the record, Shah Mikado is extinct.

[sunflowers]

Yes I know about Shah. That is what seeds sent to me were labeled tho.

I've grown several of thos last year and none of them were ever that "white" except when they were rock hard unripe.

Different growing conditions or

Carol

[darthslater]

I beleive growing conditions are responsible for alot of things, color, shape, taste etc...I will send you some of my very whitest whites, and we can see.
Another very good one is White Potato Leaf, which I beleive is "Shah Mikado" with a name change. And also, I beleive Wiess and Fantome Du Laos is one in the same, consider the source.

[PVP]

I said, whites, huh, good God, y'all
What are they good for - absolutely nothing
Say it again - whites, whoa, Lord
What are they good for - absolutely nothing
Listen to me ...

[stepheninky]

There is no gold tomato

Gdf
Gold Fleck
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color

Small dark green spots on immature fruit, do not rupture but turn [glow=red,2,300]yellow[/glow] on ripe fruit.

But there are glow in the dark tomatoes

[letitgrow992]

ugh everytime I think I seen alot of new tomatores I see more. Some one pick me up off the floor please