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Post by darthslater on Apr 17, 2011 0:45:31 GMT -5
Here is a beauty I got from Pap. There seems to be quite a few cultivars that have come out of Cherokee Purple, wether intentional or engineered. I know I will have alot to look forward to, I have Golden Cherokee from Amideutch and Paps Lemon Limes and the Cherokee Chocolate. What else is in store from this one great cultivar? Here is Paps Cherokee Lime, very nice looking plants to be sure.  |
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Post by blane on Apr 17, 2011 9:53:39 GMT -5
So, what do you expect the fruits to look like on these? We havent discussed this one in detail yet-
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Post by paulf on Apr 17, 2011 11:03:49 GMT -5
A few years ago I grew Cherokee Green. A green when ripe. The GWR people raved; I personally don't care for the green tomatoes. Are all these "Cherokees" from the CP? The only one I know of that has a direct line is the Cherokee Chocolate. I love the CP and the CC. The other Cherokees not so much. Is the Lime the same as the Green?
We seem to be getting as many Cherokees as we have Brandywines.
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Post by sharris on Apr 17, 2011 12:26:09 GMT -5
Great another Cherokee that I won't be able to get, the Cherokee Tiger and now Cherokee Lime. I have all the rest, but not these. lol
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Post by PVP on Apr 17, 2011 16:58:26 GMT -5
Are all these "Cherokees" from the CP? The only one I know of that has a direct line is the Cherokee Chocolate. Without debating whether they result from "spontaneous mutations" or outbreeding, here is the sequence: Cherokee Purple >> Cherokee Chocolate >> Cherokee Green >> Golden Cherokee >> Cherokee Lemon >> Cherokee Lime Is the Lime the same as the Green? No, Cherokee Green has a yellow epidermis, green when ripe fruit. Cherokee Lime has a clear epidermis, green when ripe fruit. We seem to be getting as many Cherokees as we have Brandywines. At least with the Cherokees, one can trace them all back to Cherokee Purple. With the Brandywines, they come from all over the place, i.e.: Brandywine Yellow, Brandywine Red, Brandywine OTV, Croatian Brandywine, True Black Brandywine, etc., with little or no direct linkage to a single variety and known rampant out-crossing. |
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Post by PVP on Apr 17, 2011 17:01:18 GMT -5
So, what do you expect the fruits to look like on these? We havent discussed this one in detail yet-   |
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Post by darthslater on Apr 17, 2011 17:16:45 GMT -5
Truly a tomato work of art!!
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Post by paulf on Apr 17, 2011 20:27:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the lineage. But I still don't like green when ripe tomatoes. Who did all the breeding work on the later day Cherokees?
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Post by PVP on Apr 17, 2011 20:34:18 GMT -5
Who did all the breeding work on the later day Cherokees? I don't think there has been any "breeding work" done, unless by pollinating insects. The Cherokee Purple >> Cherokee Chocolate >> Cherokee Green all are purported "spontaneous mutations" back and forth between Craig LeHoullier and people he exchanged seeds with. Cherokee Green >> Golden Cherokee, I can't tell you how or where that happened. There may be an explanation in the description under Tomato/Other Colors in the SSE Yearbook. I got my Golden Cherokee seeds from a fellow in the Yearbook, and in 2009, I got three different expressions, one of which was the clear yellow I'm calling Cherokee Lemon. Then in 2010, I got what I'm calling Cherokee Lime from the saved 2009 Cherokee Lemon seeds. Ted Corbett also got the clear skin, green when ripe "Cherokee Lime" in Germany last summer from 2009 seeds I sent him out of Cherokee Lemon. |
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