grunt
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Post by grunt on Apr 22, 2011 22:11:22 GMT -5
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Post by jcm05 on Apr 23, 2011 9:11:29 GMT -5
I grew it last year for first time. Definitely a dwarf. Productive. Flavor was average to ok for me. Few other dwarf oranges I know of.
This was developed by Dan? Can you elaborate on this please Dan?
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grunt
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Post by grunt on Apr 24, 2011 11:43:40 GMT -5
Coastal Pride Orange is part of what started out as a grow out and "chase-down" if an unknown indeterminate that i saved seeds from for some reason. I grew it out several years, calling it "Tomato C" (original aint I?). It seemed stable, (red and indeterminate) and I was ready to release it as Coastal Pride, when it split again = an orange dwarf and the stable red that is now called Coastal Pride Red. There are no similarities between the two (CPO and CPR), except fruit size. One is red, indeterminate, RL and very slightly acidic, the other is orange, dwarf, rugose and sweet. The rest of the Coastal series comes from another indeterminate, again unknown, that was labeled "Tomato B" originally. Flavor varies in each of the Coastals, as does fruit and plant size. Each season affects what you will see and taste, at least in my garden, but the variations are within normal varietal parameters.
Stocky as the stems are on CPO, give it some support when it starts to fill out the fruit, or it will do a face plant on you = i usually get fruit in the 8 to 10 ounce range, and there are usually a lot of fruit on each plant.
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Post by jcm05 on Apr 25, 2011 5:58:42 GMT -5
It seemed stable, (red and indeterminate) and I was ready to release it as Coastal Pride, when it split again = an orange dwarf and the stable red that is now called Coastal Pride Red. So this stable orange-fruited dwarf appeared that year and it's been stable ever since? Seems unlikely this was outcrossing, no? |
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Post by maf on Apr 25, 2011 8:06:54 GMT -5
The dwarf and orange fruit traits are both recessive. Could easily have been lurking in the background of the genetics all along, just not expressed in the plants grown. Being recessive, as soon as these traits were recovered they would be stable.
Remember, the original seed came from a commercial hybrid; who could know how complex the original cross was?
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Post by mawkhawk on Jul 17, 2011 8:27:59 GMT -5
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Post by grunt on Jul 17, 2011 16:43:20 GMT -5
The color difference may be weather related = 2007 was a hot summer here = in the nineties F, or better most of July and half of August. That also indicates heat tolerance, which I should have noted earlier. My fruit were 8 to 10 oz on the happiest plant.
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