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Post by dld on Feb 11, 2010 8:32:23 GMT -5
Spud, is there a way to find out how old a particular tomato is. Like say my favorite Summer Cider, how long has it's been around?
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Post by spudleafwillie on Feb 11, 2010 14:47:26 GMT -5
Rich, The short answer is probably NO.........but,
If its 20 or less yrs old and OP, you might, and i say MIGHT, find a reference to the variety in the SSE Annual Yearbooks but that might not be accurate because the person listing it might have grown it it out for a few years before listing it or just discovered an old heirloom tomato somewhere.
Commercial OPs, you would have to check every seed catalog for the last 20-30 years but those catalogs are not readily available.
For OP varieties more than 20 years old, forget it, as many of the heirloom varieties have histories that stretch back 150 yrs or more. Unless its in their history, there is no record on exactly how old it is.
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Post by camochef on Feb 13, 2010 23:34:31 GMT -5
DLD, While this doesn't help answer your question on how old, you might find the info useful. There are two different tomatoes offered by seed venders as Summer Cider. They are nothing alike. One comes from Marianna's Heirlooms and the second from Amishland. One is yellow, the other orange. I grew them both last year. See review on other forum. Camo
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Post by darthslater on Feb 13, 2010 23:54:12 GMT -5
DLD, While this doesn't help answer your question on how old, you might find the info useful. There are two different tomatoes offered by seed venders as Summer Cider. They are nothing alike. One comes from Marianna's Heirlooms and the second from Amishland. One is yellow, the other orange. I grew them both last year. See review on other forum. Camo Hey Camo, why not post that on this forum? Some people dont go to the others anymore, just sayin. Darth
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Post by camochef on Feb 14, 2010 0:08:04 GMT -5
DLD, While this doesn't help answer your question on how old, you might find the info useful. There are two different tomatoes offered by seed venders as Summer Cider. They are nothing alike. One comes from Marianna's Heirlooms and the second from Amishland. One is yellow, the other orange. I grew them both last year. See review on other forum. Camo Hey Camo, why not post that on this forum? Some people dont go to the others anymore, just sayin. Darth Darth, Howdy, two reasons, the first being the fact that I'm a one-fingered typer and the second being I don't like posting the same thing on different forums, it confuses the people at google. I'm pretty sure DLD knows where I was refering to, but I should add here, one was tasty and worth growing the other was not! Camo
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Post by dld on Feb 14, 2010 9:19:49 GMT -5
camo, I hope this is a pic of the good one, It's the one I grew in 2008.
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Post by camochef on Feb 14, 2010 10:05:57 GMT -5
DLD, That looks like the good one...which was orange colored. The yellow colored summer cider was bland and nothing special! Camo
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Post by bunkie on Feb 14, 2010 12:08:57 GMT -5
...Hey Camo, why not post that on this forum? Some people dont go to the others anymore, just sayin. Darth i'm sorry camo, but i agree with darth here. maybe with the moderators' permission we could put a link to your notes somewhere on this forum? they get lost on the other one and are hard to find, and they're soooo important...especially cause i'm growing a lot of them this year... thanks to your generosity!!! ;D
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Post by PVP on Feb 14, 2010 13:09:10 GMT -5
I'm glad Camo posted the comment about a difference between yellow and orange Summer Cider because the one I grew was so bland that I've been biting my tongue for a year trying not to poo poo DLD's rave reviews of his Summer Cider. Naturally, I just thought what he grew was the same as what I grew ... blah.
So, I guess now I'm gonna have to add the orange version of Summer Cider to a future grow list.
Bill
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Post by PVP on Feb 14, 2010 13:11:20 GMT -5
Oh ... I don't think Summer Cider is all that old as a variety. I'm thinking it came from Europe as a variant of something out of the same breeding program as Brandy Stripe/Vintage Wine. Not really sure about that though.
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Post by dld on Feb 14, 2010 13:25:51 GMT -5
PV, just say when and seeds will be on there way.
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Post by camochef on Feb 15, 2010 9:21:35 GMT -5
...Hey Camo, why not post that on this forum? Some people dont go to the others anymore, just sayin. Darth i'm sorry camo, but i agree with darth here. maybe with the moderators' permission we could put a link to your notes somewhere on this forum? they get lost on the other one and are hard to find, and they're soooo important...especially cause i'm growing a lot of them this year... thanks to your generosity!!! ;D Ok guys here's the link to the 2009 reviews: idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24630 and the 2008: idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11386 don't miss the addendums on pages 4 and 5. you'll have to search for all the individual reviews and the pictures. Camo
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Post by bunkie on Feb 15, 2010 10:50:05 GMT -5
thanks camo! ;D
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Post by camochef on Feb 16, 2010 13:31:52 GMT -5
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