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Post by tomc on Feb 20, 2011 2:23:31 GMT -5
I think this does need to be done. But it needs to be done with strict guidelines for saving where that is the goal. This could mean caging, isolation distances and close coordination and documentation of what defines specific lines so you don't have the issue that Seed Savers has with mix ups different "strains". I'd like to take an opposing end of this argument. Some of the points I will cheerfully conceed to proponents: 1., Isolation of plants is both useful and necessary for breeding new cultivars of tomato. 2., Detailed histories and provenance are of great use if plant patenting is any ones ultimate goal. In opposition:In the 500 + or - generations of tomato grown in European gardens almost none of those were done with any thought of isolation beyond mere convenience. Of these few generations most were drops being the sole source of the next years volunteers for a successive crop. So, if your goal is to withdraw fresh tomatoes from the average civilians hands (or stomach). Make up lots of rules and conditions to their cultivation. I'm sure big agro will thank you for doing their work for them.
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Post by tomc on Feb 19, 2011 6:44:40 GMT -5
I only had good striping and production from little lucky in a warm summer in NH. On a more average summer (as in cooler and wetter) it is an underperformer. Both taste, color, and productivity. IMO for right-coasters, CT and south will be more pleased with this cultivar.
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Post by tomc on Feb 19, 2011 6:31:57 GMT -5
Minnie, when I grew in a marginal area (NH) some cultivars of brandywine were underperformers. Only save seed from the B-wine that gets up and runs for you...
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Post by tomc on Feb 12, 2011 5:12:12 GMT -5
Well USAians *think* they like red tomatoes. Mostly they get sold pinks. And when offered tomatoes Without being told what to buy (and price being equal) about two-thirds, will select pinks over reds...
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Post by tomc on Jan 31, 2011 6:49:29 GMT -5
I worked for an Austrian chef who loved serving a baked tomato with bread stuffing in it. He actually started to shake (with joy) when a local grower brought him some stuffers. I wasn't impressed then and on my trial of said neeto tomatoes; I've not been impressed with the result from my own garden.
I'm taking this long way round to make the case for preserving tomatoes that don't pass our muster. My example is one of two people preparing the same fruit, the same way with two very different reactions.
I have to agree with Darth though, no stuffer I've tried so far floated my boat. I just got beat up onna 'nother chat for puffing Burpees Long Keeper tomato. Who is right? I'll suspect we both are...
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Post by tomc on Jan 24, 2011 12:48:48 GMT -5
I agree with RTT. Botanically its a fruit. By application it is savory and gets used after fruit cup and before desert.
Katsup was probably a fish based sauce out of the other side of the pacific rim, When the sole supply was exhausted in 1850's SanFransisco, foodies demanded a replacement right away! A dilligent Chinese cook came up with what we now know as katsup.
All things concidered I like the result of his long ago work.
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Post by tomc on Jan 17, 2011 19:38:31 GMT -5
Growing the biggest what-ever must be a really cutthroat adventure in Britain. Here's where the big boys shop. www.medwynsofanglesey.co.uk/The photo of Peter Glazebrook with his prize winning onion is priceless.
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Post by tomc on Jan 16, 2011 20:33:29 GMT -5
I'll repeat, Did Dan & Vals collection make it over the border? Sorry Tom, just noticed this post again, yes, nothing got taken or confiscated. Many in here I have never heard of. Dean I have benefited from their charity. Good! I am glad they passed over the border OK. You'll be a good steward, I'm glad of where they have arrived. Thank you.
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Post by tomc on Jan 15, 2011 18:24:03 GMT -5
I'll repeat, Did Dan & Vals collection make it over the border?
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Post by tomc on Jan 12, 2011 22:25:14 GMT -5
I'm probably gonna get a slap. But, who cares? If the mayans were (or are) right we check out. If they're wrong we keep on plodding along.
Either way please send all T-bills, or other stocks and bonds to me please...I'll take real good care of them.
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Post by tomc on Jan 7, 2011 1:38:25 GMT -5
Darth did Dan & Val's collection get over the border?
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Post by tomc on Jan 5, 2011 18:14:10 GMT -5
I held back in pestering Carolyn for (some of) her old stocks of Olena's Ukrainian, and the only thing "waiting" got me was none of her old (most likely long given out) seed.
Now my not scoring isn't any part of her fault. But I'm smart enough to not do that over with Tom Wagner as a TPS making russet look-alike source.
Oh he might NOT have my hopes desire, but waiting isn't going to make that any less likely
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Post by tomc on Jan 5, 2011 14:32:10 GMT -5
My guess is too wet, too cold. Maybe its time for a hoop house?
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Post by tomc on Jan 5, 2011 14:27:24 GMT -5
Snow White is pale-yellow / white cherry. Its productive enough. Tastes OK. Indeterminate R-L.
I liked it,
I doubt I'll dig up old Walt over it though.
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Post by tomc on Jan 4, 2011 6:59:07 GMT -5
You watch football? if it weren't for commercials at stuporbowl it could be almost as exciting as watching a chess tournament.
What a waste of perfectly good beer and chips.
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